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Prophecies Heleus · Oct 09, 2005, 03:49 PM // 15:49

Lately with all skill being nerfed it seem we are limited to build,but i seen build out there still going,Iway,Foc,Aoe,EoE,And Well Rounded.to me it seem well rounded are very original and made to be the best in game,for this reason i like to ask.WHICH BUILD IS THE BEST? was guildwars meant to only have one build that beat the rest or it is all in team work.

Effigy · Oct 09, 2005, 03:52 PM // 15:52

There is no "one best build" because every build has a counter. If it doesn't have a counter, then it gets nerfed.

Yukito Kunisaki · Oct 09, 2005, 05:54 PM // 17:54

"And you are the Best at what you do!"

I think that sums it up...

NekoZ · Oct 09, 2005, 06:23 PM // 18:23

Invincimonk had a counter- degen and enchant removal, it got nerfed.

Kakumei · Oct 09, 2005, 07:13 PM // 19:13

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Originally Posted by NekoZ

Invincimonk had a counter- degen and enchant removal, it got nerfed.

invincimonk also wasn't used in pvp, that nerf was for pve reasons

also, the builds listed in the opening post are simply the most common--most guilds will have their own builds that they don't share so openly

Hippie Crack · Oct 09, 2005, 10:07 PM // 22:07

A Single focus build IMO will never be a dominant build for more than a weekend. Balanced builds have the easiest ability to adapt to the metagame and fix the reasons you lost, hence why alot of the better teams run more of a balanced build to open up more options during battle.

Entropius · Oct 09, 2005, 10:50 PM // 22:50

The best build is one that you understand and are comfortable with. This is true for both team builds and individual builds.

I've gone against teams that have copied Free Faction's hex build nearly skill for skill. We mauled them, simply because we know what makes the build tick.

I created a very unorthodox E/Mo healing build. Everyone I have played with agrees that I am a competent healer using it; by all accounts it's not a weak build. I posted it on my guild's forums, and one of our other healers tried it out in arenas. His response was something like: "I can see how you do well with this build, but damn, it's hard to get the hang of."

Then I tried playing a traditional monk-primary healer, and found myself running out of energy all the time -- because I was used to the limitless energy pool of my E/Mo. It took me a while to get the hang of when to conserve energy and when to cast constantly.

All builds have advantages and disadvantages. The best build is the one that you're familiar with, enough to know its strengths and weaknesses.

Dont Look At My · Oct 10, 2005, 09:54 AM // 09:54

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Originally Posted by Entropius

The best build is one that you understand and are comfortable with. This is true for both team builds and individual builds.

I've gone against teams that have copied Free Faction's hex build nearly skill for skill. We mauled them, simply because we know what makes the build tick.

I created a very unorthodox E/Mo healing build. Everyone I have played with agrees that I am a competent healer using it; by all accounts it's not a weak build. I posted it on my guild's forums, and one of our other healers tried it out in arenas. His response was something like: "I can see how you do well with this build, but damn, it's hard to get the hang of."

Then I tried playing a traditional monk-primary healer, and found myself running out of energy all the time -- because I was used to the limitless energy pool of my E/Mo. It took me a while to get the hang of when to conserve energy and when to cast constantly.

All builds have advantages and disadvantages. The best build is the one that you're familiar with, enough to know its strengths and weaknesses.

Thats for sure, and its fine, but arent you running out of energy on a longtime fight when you use monk as secondary profession ?
perhaps you have one of the ele skills as energy management, but still you need to cast much more then a primary monk to heal it out. The biggest advantage of it is when you have decent energy management skills, just have fun with your build =)

GreatLich · Oct 10, 2005, 02:14 PM // 14:14

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Originally Posted by Prophecies Heleus

Lately with all skill being nerfed it seem we are limited to build,but i seen build out there still going,Iway,Foc,Aoe,EoE,And Well Rounded.to me it seem well rounded are very original and made to be the best in game,for this reason i like to ask.WHICH BUILD IS THE BEST? was guildwars meant to only have one build that beat the rest or it is all in team work.

First the Hammer vs Axe thread and now this?! Stop trolling these boards please.

Entropius · Oct 10, 2005, 02:56 PM // 14:56

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Originally Posted by Dont Look At My

Thats for sure, and its fine, but arent you running out of energy on a longtime fight when you use monk as secondary profession ?
perhaps you have one of the ele skills as energy management, but still you need to cast much more then a primary monk to heal it out. The biggest advantage of it is when you have decent energy management skills, just have fun with your build =)

Ether Renewal is the best energy management skill in the game.

It's been nerfed, but with a little work it still lets you cast all you want.

n0m0reg0dz · Oct 15, 2005, 05:03 PM // 17:03

and dont forget that ele/monk got the great amount of energy..

Signet of Humility · Oct 15, 2005, 05:47 PM // 17:47

Ranger Spike

W/R's
W/E KD/AS

One and Two · Oct 16, 2005, 12:52 AM // 00:52

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Originally Posted by Kakumei

invincimonk also wasn't used in pvp, that nerf was for pve reasons

You must not have played PvP during that time

NightOwl · Oct 16, 2005, 01:24 AM // 01:24

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Originally Posted by One and Two

You must not have played PvP during that time

You have got to be kidding me. Invincimonks were regularly slaughtered in pvp, every time I've seen them (not always by me, but by someone on the team). I don't mean killed after 20 minutes, I mean dead when people bother to pay attention to them.

Entropius · Oct 16, 2005, 03:52 AM // 03:52

Invincimonks were played in PvP, but they didn't really interact much with the rest of the PvP world. People ignored them and the pathetically little amount of healing they could produce until someone got around to killing them with (insert way to kill invincimonk here).

romO · Oct 16, 2005, 03:47 PM // 15:47

yeah i did see an invincimonk or two try to play in pvp. we laughed at him and proceeded to kill him in one hit.

Entropius · Oct 16, 2005, 04:57 PM // 16:57

I think my funniest Invincimonk story was one guy who'd cast his maintained enchantments in the wrong order, and had Protective Bond on top.

Shatter Enchantment, splat, gg.

Yukito Kunisaki · Oct 17, 2005, 03:12 PM // 15:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Entropius

I think my funniest Invincimonk story was one guy who'd cast his maintained enchantments in the wrong order, and had Protective Bond on top.

Shatter Enchantment, splat, gg.

I love fighting invincimonks. They belong in pve, where stupid shit is allowed... ^_^

Invinci Monk: "HAH HAH WARRIORS CAN'T HIT ME!!"

Kei Kusanagi: I'm using Rend Enchantments on Invinci Monk!"

"YOU F******ING BASTARD!!!"

Kei Kusanagi: gg...

Maybe next time, you'll realize I eat people like you for breakfast... Cowardly enchant user... MUAHAHHAHA.

FrogDevourer · Oct 17, 2005, 03:16 PM // 15:16

Eight paladins with mending.

Search button for the win.